Comments on: Doing Business with the Semi-Permeable Corporation http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/ An Echo Park Yahoo's place for thoughts on life and the web Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:05:10 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: netcaetera.ro » Blog Archive » Why is it hard to work with big public companies? http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/comment-page-1/#comment-45651 netcaetera.ro » Blog Archive » Why is it hard to work with big public companies? Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:57:20 +0000 http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/#comment-45651 [...] Luckily Greg Cohn has. Here’s just a bit of what he says in Doing Business with the Semi-Permeable Corporation: TodayÂ’s environment is transparent, open, and conversational - meaning almost anyone can get to anyone and communicate with them publicly, semi-publicly, or privately. This is great - when I need to find someone, it tends to be quite easy to reach them directly or with one degree of separation via my network. When someone needs to reach me, I am equally easy to find (and in fact have a public “contact me” email link thatÂ’s one click away from a search on my name). As conversations become substantive, companies are increasingly transparent about their objectives, plans, competition, and even finances, all of which materially increase effectiveness. So much for the good stuff. The challenges are: a) that IÂ’m still under the constraints of a public company, and can not in any way be “conversational” about material inside information; and b) that open doors like mine are magnets for everything from unrelated BU inquiries (from people who should know better) to “the Yahoo! suggestion box”, and the signal-to-noise ratio of inbound items can create a lot of distractions and confusion if I donÂ’t filter aggressively. [...] [...] Luckily Greg Cohn has. Here’s just a bit of what he says in Doing Business with the Semi-Permeable Corporation: TodayÂ’s environment is transparent, open, and conversational – meaning almost anyone can get to anyone and communicate with them publicly, semi-publicly, or privately. This is great – when I need to find someone, it tends to be quite easy to reach them directly or with one degree of separation via my network. When someone needs to reach me, I am equally easy to find (and in fact have a public “contact me” email link thatÂ’s one click away from a search on my name). As conversations become substantive, companies are increasingly transparent about their objectives, plans, competition, and even finances, all of which materially increase effectiveness. So much for the good stuff. The challenges are: a) that IÂ’m still under the constraints of a public company, and can not in any way be “conversational” about material inside information; and b) that open doors like mine are magnets for everything from unrelated BU inquiries (from people who should know better) to “the Yahoo! suggestion box”, and the signal-to-noise ratio of inbound items can create a lot of distractions and confusion if I donÂ’t filter aggressively. [...]

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]]> By: Occasional reader - Airport security, future of journalism, working with Yahoo! « reDesign http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/comment-page-1/#comment-43383 Occasional reader - Airport security, future of journalism, working with Yahoo! « reDesign Mon, 19 May 2008 00:17:21 +0000 http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/#comment-43383 [...] Doing Business with the Semi-Permeable Corporation (Greg Cohn’s blog) - Blogs and social networks have made it much easier to reach out to key decision makers in large corporations. But they haven’t erased the rules of business. Yahoo’s Greg Cohn provides a look at the good and the bad of openness in a large public corporation. [...] [...] Doing Business with the Semi-Permeable Corporation (Greg Cohn’s blog) – Blogs and social networks have made it much easier to reach out to key decision makers in large corporations. But they haven’t erased the rules of business. Yahoo’s Greg Cohn provides a look at the good and the bad of openness in a large public corporation. [...]

]]> By: greg http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/comment-page-1/#comment-42968 greg Wed, 14 May 2008 17:00:28 +0000 http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/#comment-42968 awesome comment beenthere! awesome comment beenthere!

]]> By: beenthere http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/comment-page-1/#comment-42909 beenthere Wed, 14 May 2008 01:31:20 +0000 http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/#comment-42909 "To enable us to drive orthogonal intersections across internal channels, even if it means multiple meetings and engagement points." ROTFLMAO! after reading that, i am finally on board with jeff macke. thanks for illuminating the precise reason why it is indeed time for the total takedown. or in more familiar terms, "go orthogonally internal channel intersect yourself." what? you thought you were untouchable? nobody is untouchable in this game good buddy pal. the gig is up. you're exposed. /s/ the VC philosopher king of PA “To enable us to drive orthogonal intersections across internal channels, even if it means multiple meetings and engagement points.”

ROTFLMAO! after reading that, i am finally on board with jeff macke. thanks for illuminating the precise reason why it is indeed time for the total takedown. or in more familiar terms, “go orthogonally internal channel intersect yourself.”

what? you thought you were untouchable? nobody is untouchable in this game good buddy pal. the gig is up. you’re exposed.

/s/ the VC philosopher king of PA

]]> By: greg http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/comment-page-1/#comment-42619 greg Fri, 09 May 2008 21:57:09 +0000 http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/#comment-42619 Thanks for the glossary Mike (and for all the previous comments everyone). For more detail on YOS, please see previous post at http://gregcohn.com/blog/social/2008/04/yahoo-open-strategy-yos-unveiled/ Thanks for the glossary Mike (and for all the previous comments everyone). For more detail on YOS, please see previous post at

http://gregcohn.com/blog/social/2008/04/yahoo-open-strategy-yos-unveiled/

]]> By: Mike http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/comment-page-1/#comment-42600 Mike Fri, 09 May 2008 17:28:16 +0000 http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/#comment-42600 Kirk: BD = Business Development; BU = Business Unit; YOS = Yahoo! Open Strategy; Mike Kirk:
BD = Business Development;
BU = Business Unit;
YOS = Yahoo! Open Strategy;

Mike

]]> By: Kirk http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/comment-page-1/#comment-42582 Kirk Fri, 09 May 2008 10:04:06 +0000 http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/#comment-42582 Excellent rebuttal. But could you maybe add a glossary? What are BD, BU and YOS? I know NDA = non-disclosure agreement. Excellent rebuttal. But could you maybe add a glossary? What are BD, BU and YOS? I know NDA = non-disclosure agreement.

]]> By: Vicki http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/comment-page-1/#comment-42525 Vicki Thu, 08 May 2008 21:03:39 +0000 http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/#comment-42525 The problem with the idea that blogs are a good place for venting is that anything that goes onto the WWW is there FOREVER. Change your mind later? We still remember what you said when you were in that bad mood. And the Net has a long memory. My take-away lesson for today is that Jeff Nolan got angry and bitchy and whiny in public... and Greg Cohn not only didn't hit back, he replied calmly and coherently. If I was choosing to do business tomorrow with one or the other, I'd be picking Greg. The problem with the idea that blogs are a good place for venting is that anything that goes onto the WWW is there FOREVER. Change your mind later? We still remember what you said when you were in that bad mood. And the Net has a long memory.

My take-away lesson for today is that Jeff Nolan got angry and bitchy and whiny in public… and Greg Cohn not only didn’t hit back, he replied calmly and coherently.

If I was choosing to do business tomorrow with one or the other, I’d be picking Greg.

]]> By: Teddy Ruxpin http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/comment-page-1/#comment-42516 Teddy Ruxpin Thu, 08 May 2008 20:01:16 +0000 http://gregcohn.com/blog/yahoo/2008/05/doing-business-with-the-semi-permeable-corporation/#comment-42516 I think that blogs are a good place for venting. I would like to think that everyone makes the assumption that if you're blogging about it, possibly it's because you're upset and that you might change your mind later. The old cliche, take it with a grain of salt, still stands today. It's important to remember the flip side though, and that is you can spend your whole career being an angel and shine, but kick one puppy and your blog will be all over devel-r and the wag. I think that blogs are a good place for venting. I would like to think that everyone makes the assumption that if you’re blogging about it, possibly it’s because you’re upset and that you might change your mind later. The old cliche, take it with a grain of salt, still stands today. It’s important to remember the flip side though, and that is you can spend your whole career being an angel and shine, but kick one puppy and your blog will be all over devel-r and the wag.

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