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	<title>Comments on: Farecast&#8217;s Groundbreaking New Product</title>
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		<title>By: Ian Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://gregcohn.com/blog/business-models/2007/01/farecasts-groundbreaking-new-product/comment-page-1/#comment-4134</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 00:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the Black-Scholes on a trip to Hawaii in February? Can I arbitrage that against a trip to Tahoe now that the snow&#039;s all gone? Maybe pay for the difference with a trade on my futures contract on my utilities bill.

I knew I should have paid attention in Economics class!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the Black-Scholes on a trip to Hawaii in February? Can I arbitrage that against a trip to Tahoe now that the snow&#8217;s all gone? Maybe pay for the difference with a trade on my futures contract on my utilities bill.</p>
<p>I knew I should have paid attention in Economics class!</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://gregcohn.com/blog/business-models/2007/01/farecasts-groundbreaking-new-product/comment-page-1/#comment-4078</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that&#039;s a very interesting question Gordon.  A technically correct answer is beyond my expertise, though I&#039;m sure there&#039;s plenty of economic theory to support one or more well-reasoned answers.

With that caveat, 2 thoughts:  1 is that commodity travel sales (airlines, etc.) are inefficient markets by design - with the goal of maximizing profit for the sellers, even if some seats remain unsold, rather than creating a single, perfect price per seat such that supply exactly meets demand and all seats are sold. So, having derivatives out there is a way of monetizing that inefficiency that it seems to me only enables it to persist (and perhaps have higher Beta if we get to the point of exerciseable options that convey rights on inventory).

That said, the second thought is that a robust derivatives market would, on an aggregate basis, add to the corpus of data and lead to a better collective view of what efficient market prices would be (per the &quot;Delphi pool&quot; comment above and general ongoing &lt;a href=&quot;http://cartegic.typepad.com/mapping_strategy/2005/02/blogs_and_predi.html&quot;&gt;thinking&lt;/a&gt; about information markets).  For example, if an airline has 10 seats left priced at $1000, and they sell 1, they don&#039;t necessarily know if dropping the price to $800 would lead to 2 additional sales or 7.  Though they could probably predict it reasonably well from historical data, having live marketplaces placing value on call options at different prices for those specific seats would create more visibility and basis for determining &quot;actual&quot; value even while they maintain their price discipline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s a very interesting question Gordon.  A technically correct answer is beyond my expertise, though I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s plenty of economic theory to support one or more well-reasoned answers.</p>
<p>With that caveat, 2 thoughts:  1 is that commodity travel sales (airlines, etc.) are inefficient markets by design &#8211; with the goal of maximizing profit for the sellers, even if some seats remain unsold, rather than creating a single, perfect price per seat such that supply exactly meets demand and all seats are sold. So, having derivatives out there is a way of monetizing that inefficiency that it seems to me only enables it to persist (and perhaps have higher Beta if we get to the point of exerciseable options that convey rights on inventory).</p>
<p>That said, the second thought is that a robust derivatives market would, on an aggregate basis, add to the corpus of data and lead to a better collective view of what efficient market prices would be (per the &#8220;Delphi pool&#8221; comment above and general ongoing <a href="http://cartegic.typepad.com/mapping_strategy/2005/02/blogs_and_predi.html">thinking</a> about information markets).  For example, if an airline has 10 seats left priced at $1000, and they sell 1, they don&#8217;t necessarily know if dropping the price to $800 would lead to 2 additional sales or 7.  Though they could probably predict it reasonably well from historical data, having live marketplaces placing value on call options at different prices for those specific seats would create more visibility and basis for determining &#8220;actual&#8221; value even while they maintain their price discipline.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Choi</title>
		<link>http://gregcohn.com/blog/business-models/2007/01/farecasts-groundbreaking-new-product/comment-page-1/#comment-4057</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Choi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 08:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, interesting analysis you have. If this is successfully implemented, does this mean the the merchants of the travel industry will become more price competitive than ever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, interesting analysis you have. If this is successfully implemented, does this mean the the merchants of the travel industry will become more price competitive than ever?</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny Lingham&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-02-01</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny Lingham&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-02-01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Greg Cohn’s Weblog : » Farecast’s Groundbreaking New Product I have a used Farecast before - very nice site. (tags: farecast travel pricing predictions)   Share This [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TannerShot</title>
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		<dc:creator>TannerShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m intrigued by your analysis, and inference that this borders on illegal gambling. In John Brunner&#039;s &#039;The Shockwave Rider&#039; he posited a future exchange market based on predicting future events. This market was called the &#039;Delphi pool &#039; and everyone participated. Through aggregation and statistical analysis it was found that while no one &#039;knew what was going on&#039;, everyone as a weighted average could reasonably say what was going on.

Good write up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m intrigued by your analysis, and inference that this borders on illegal gambling. In John Brunner&#8217;s &#8216;The Shockwave Rider&#8217; he posited a future exchange market based on predicting future events. This market was called the &#8216;Delphi pool &#8216; and everyone participated. Through aggregation and statistical analysis it was found that while no one &#8216;knew what was going on&#8217;, everyone as a weighted average could reasonably say what was going on.</p>
<p>Good write up.</p>
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